Reboot Podcast Episode #108 – Leading Shoulder to Shoulder – with Sara Hicks and Mathias Meyer

The Reboot podcast showcases the heart and soul, the wins and losses, the ups and downs of startup leadership. On the show, Entrepreneurs, CEO’s, and Startup Leaders discuss with Jerry Colonna the emotional and psychological challenges they face daily as leaders.

Episode 108 // July 12, 2019


Sara Hicks

Sara Hicks

Co-Founder & CEO, Reaction Commerce

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Mathias Meyer

Mathias Meyer

CTO, Reaction Commerce

Episode Description

In this modern age, the ability to connect across continents and timezones is pivotal for a globally distributed team. While email, video calls, and chatting services provide the means to instantly connect, how successfully do we truly manage to communicate within all these channels?

For Sara Hicks, CEO and Co-founder of Reaction Commerce, and recently appointed CTO Mathias Meyer, finding congruence via communication is paramount. On this episode of the Reboot Podcast, Sara and Mathias turn to Jerry for support in establishing a blueprint for their new business partnership, specifically looking to gain insight on how to communicate successfully across a large geographical barrier.

In this conversation, Jerry puts forth the notion that all human interactions in relationships (whether work or personal) stem from our desire to feel love, safety, and belonging. Jerry helps Mathias and Sara unearth the ways in which their old patterns of communication may be tied to their personal fears around belonging. Jerry encourages Mathias and Sara to consider how exquisite communication built around empathetic connection grants them the opportunity to stand shoulder to shoulder as leaders and adults, offering them the chance to support each other in their journeys towards growing up.

Sara Hicks on Twitter | Mathias Meyer on Twitter | Reboot: Leadership and the Art of Growing Up | Reboot Services

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Show Highlights

Top Quotes:

“We know that we carry our history with us and we’re trying to figure out how do we do our best to not repeat some of those patterns and establish a good blueprint for this business partnership.” – Sara Hicks

“This could be an opportunity to not just find a job, but find a different kind of relationship.” – Mathias Meyer

“I was looking for a place that’s safe. Where you can have open and frank conversations with someone.” – Mathias Meyers

“I think we both understand that the relationship is more important than the roles and responsibilities.” – Sara Hicks

“We often go to a traditional form of interpersonal dialogue and interpersonal relationship because it’s scary to do otherwise.” – Jerry Colonna

“So much of what we seek boils down to love, safety, and belonging. And if any or all of those are threatened, we will go into this kind of red alert state.” – Jerry Colonna

“It’s uncomfortable to be in the space where it’s not fixed.” – Jerry Colonna

“Part of what human beings want, even if they crave solitude, they don’t want to be alone.” – Jerry Colonna

“How do we regularly and purposefully connect?” – Sara Hicks

“I fundamentally believe that leadership challenges give us the opportunity to complete our process, to become the full catastrophe adults that we were born to be.” – Jerry Colonna

“What’s wonderful about consciously committed, intentional relationship is that is like gasoline on the fire of the leadership journey.” – Jerry Colonna

“And so you have your pile of work, Mathias, you have your pile of work, Sara. Right? But the bridge is that empathetic connection.” – Jerry Colonna

‘What does it mean to have colleagues, compadres, allies, good friends who hold each other to the fierce commitment of growing up?” – Jerry Colonna

“Just imagine that the entire company stands shoulder to shoulder in one big circle. That’s a powerful, powerful company. That’s a company that people want to work for. That’s a company that gives a sense of belonging and safety and dare we say, love.” – Jerry Colonna

“Only the curious have something to find.” – Nickel Creek “This Side”