Reboot Podcast Episode #157 – When Are You Done? – with Chris Remus

The Reboot podcast showcases the heart and soul, the wins and losses, the ups and downs of startup leadership. On the show, Entrepreneurs, CEO’s, and Startup Leaders discuss with Jerry Colonna the emotional and psychological challenges they face daily as leaders.


Chris Remus

Chris Remus

Founder of Chainflow

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Episode Description

In this podcast, Jerry sits down with Chris Remus, Founder of Chainflow, to explore an enormously complex and personal question, “What does it mean to be done?” What unfolds is a thought-provoking conversation around our relationship to work, and why we so often sacrifice our personal happiness in the pursuit of ‘doneness.’ 

Chris reflects on the ways in which the misalignment between his inner and outer self left him feeling unsafe and sapped his ability to fully tap into his potential. Jerry supports Chris in understanding that the real work of our lives is never truly ‘done,’ especially when we allow the junctures we arrive at and pass through to be greater tools for connecting to purpose and our heart’s greatest desires.

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Show Highlights

Top Quotes:

“I think done has usually related to some degree of financial freedom. So I think done in a lot of ways meant making enough money so I could be done with that and really start to do what I wanted to do.” – Chris Remus

“I think that there’s a relationship between milestone ages and our perception of what it means to be done.” – Jerry Colonna

“The philosophical conundrum that I think we face as a society is: to what degree should I sacrifice happiness, to what degree should I sacrifice inner and outer alignment while I’m building that, while I’m moving towards done?” – Jerry Colonna

“If one doesn’t know that they’re entitled to be happy, do they ever feel like they can actually earn that?” – Chris Remus

“I don’t know that there is a done anymore, and I’m particularly not sure that there’s a retirement.” – Chris Remus

“An old Buddhist teaching comes to mind, and that is before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. The wood I chop, the water I carry will always involve being connected to other human beings because that defines me.” – Jerry Colonna

“There is no done there just like there’s no done in the practice of sitting meditation. There’s no done in the practice of yoga. It is a life practice. And that’s your opportunity in this phase as you look at the next decade of your life.” – Jerry Colonna

“I think for most of my life, I’ve also felt very powerless. I think for the first time, I see a path into maybe not being so powerless and maybe being able to do something small to help set up the future in a more equitable and inclusive way.” – Chris Remus

“Our task is to put our shoulder to the boulder and push it up to the hill. Our task is not to do that by ourselves. Our task is to join each other and push those boulders up the hill. Knowing that the boulder may roll right back down, but that’s our task, and that gives us purpose and it gives us meaning.” – Jerry Colonna

“We have a lot of privilege. You and me and folks who live in bodies like ours. I think part of our task is to make sure our eyes stay open to all of that suffering that we see.” – Jerry Colonna