Reboot Podcast Episode #187 – The Childhood Patterns Driving How You Lead – with Pam Manfredo Curtis

The Reboot podcast showcases the heart and soul, the wins and losses, the ups and downs of startup leadership. On the show, Entrepreneurs, CEO’s, and Startup Leaders discuss with Jerry Colonna the emotional and psychological challenges they face daily as leaders.

#187 // September 29, 2026

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Guests

Pam Manfredo Curtis

Pam Manfredo Curtis

Founder of Manfredo Curtis Associates

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Episode Description

Who we are as leaders is shaped by the stories we carry and the environments we’ve experienced. In this deeply heartfelt and introspective episode, Jerry is joined by Pam Manfredo Curtis, CEO coach and author of The Origin of a Leader. With a career spanning 35 years and a PhD in industrial-organizational psychology, Pam Manfredo Curtis brings wisdom earned from coaching executive teams across industries and a personal journey rooted in family conversations, empathy, and resilience.

Together, they unpack how our childhood environments and formative experiences shape the belief systems and blocks we carry into adulthood and leadership. They explore the crucial role of psychological safety, the importance of self-inquiry, and why authentic connection and “referent power” matter. Drawing from both personal stories and client examples, they reflect on why radical self-inquiry and the ability to express our truths matter so deeply—especially for those with organizational power. 

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Show Highlights

Memorable Quotes: 

“So many of my executives are not granted that permission to speak their truth. And so they hold it like a block. It’s a secret that’s so large. For years, 30 years, 20 years, and part of you know what we have to do is give them permission to go say it out loud and confront it.” – Pam Manfredo Curtis

“I believe the biggest and most important blocks occur between zero and eighteen. The childhood years.” – Pam Manfredo Curtis

“Try to ask as you watch the interplay in the system, what needs are trying to be met by the behaviors that are going on? Are they reaching for love? Are they reaching for safety? Are they reaching bul for belonging? And if you can see the need behind the behavior and pause in your own reactivity. You might actually be able to influence the system.” – Jerry Colonna

“Why do we show up the way we show up? Is it values that were demonstrated? Is it, my parents did or didn’t provide me with certain beliefs about myself? Did I learn certain skills?” – Pam Manfredo Curtis

“The phrase I often use is radical self-inquiry, and the way I define it is it’s the process by which the masks that we wear are slowly and compassionately stripped away so we have no place left to hide, and even from ourself. If we have power and we are unwilling to do that work, we are more likely to do harm.” – Jerry Colonna

“Psychological safety is so so very important. Maybe you share a little bit about: What am I thinking? What am I feeling as I start this conversation? Pretty innocuous, right? It’s not, let’s go tell each other our full life story, right? There’s a wisdom of knowing that you have to also help people slowly bring their truth in.” – Pam Manfredo Curtis

“I do encourage people to learn how to create psychological safety for others at a deeper level. Psychological safety is a term that’s been around a long time. It’s not a checklist, it’s an actual it’s a big skill. It is how people have real conversations with each other.” – Pam Manfredo Curtis

“Let’s imagine that you’ve worked hard for the next 10 years and you have created a successful business, but this toxic culture. And your children came to work. How would you feel? And if you pause, your definition of success is violating the personhood of some people. Because everybody who walks through your door is somebody’s child, somebody’s parent, somebody’s sibling, somebody’s spouse.” – Jerry Colonna

“The referent power: who I am as a human being, who I am as a character, what my values are, how I show up in conversation, if I’m real, if I’m not, you know, if I’m a great listener or not, if I speak my mind, that that’s really who people want to be around, if the people who build trust, the people who have genuine good values that they want to be in conversation with.” – Pam Manfredo Curtis